Episode 20

20 - Have Great Conversations

20 -Have Great Conversations


In this episode, we dive into the science of succeeding with people. We cover everything from body language to making meaningful connections with others. The book by Vanessa Van Edwards called Captivate, shares tips on showing your best self from the moment you walk in the door, using exciting words and ideas, and finding mutual interests to build strong relationships. I challenge you to step up your everyday conversations and make them more exciting and memorable. Don’t miss out on these game-changing insights!

 Links

https://startwithsmallsteps.com/?p=2434


https://www.scienceofpeople.com/captivate/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnhall/2013/08/18/13-simple-ways-you-can-have-more-meaningful-conversations

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Jill McKinley

I’m Jill from the Northwoods. Professionally, I work in Health IT, where I untangle complex systems and help people use technology more effectively. But at heart, I’m a curious lifelong learner—always exploring how things work, why people grow the way they do, and how even the smallest steps can spark real transformation. That curiosity fuels everything I do, from problem-solving at work to sharing insights through my creative projects.

My journey wasn’t always easy. Growing up, I faced a rough childhood, and books became my lifeline. They introduced me to voices of ancient wisdom, modern psychology, and the natural world around me. Those pages taught me resilience, gave me perspective, and helped me see that wisdom is everywhere—waiting to be noticed, gathered, and shared.